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True Apologies prove the existence of God


I’m a semi-regular listener to Harry Shearer’s Le Show on NPR (also one of my favorite voices on the Simpsons). Each week he reports various “apologies” given by news-makers in a segment aptly titled: “apologies of the week.” Ironically, and why it can be quite funny, the apologies are almost never that. They are defenses, excuses, and convoluted explanations. What are some of the typical non-apologies you might hear? Continue reading

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Prophet or slanderer? Some additional thoughts


One of my colleagues gave me a friendly challenge after reading my initial thoughts about the differences between prophets and slanderers. While he agreed with my starter list on the differences, he asked about how I would respond to Jesus’ accusatory responses to the Pharisees. As prophet, Jesus called the teachers “white-washed tombs…a den of vipers”. My colleague could have gone further and added things the OT prophets said to Israel and Judah. Isn’t there a place for modern day prophets to be very firm and clear in their convictions, even insulting? Can’t they call a spade a spade? Continue reading

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Jefferson vs. Adams: Two leader’s style of communication


I’m finally getting around to reading McCullough’s book on John Adams. After writing my post on some of the differences between prophets and slanderers, I read these descriptions of the two. Both had their strengths and both had significant weaknesses (especially Jefferson’s apathy toward his debts and his slaves). But, here notice the contrasts between two of our most influential leaders: Continue reading

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Painful words in the church: What’s the difference between a prophet and a slanderer


For those who might not know it, Mark Driscoll wrote a blog post regarding Ted Haggard’s admission of sexual immorality. The post contains some comments regarding protecting pastors from such problems. While several of the points are useful, one point in particular offended many:

Most pastors I know do not have satisfying, free, sexual conversations and liberties with their wives. At the risk of being even more widely despised than I currently am, I will lean over the plate and take one for the team on this. It is not uncommon to meet pastors’ wives who really let themselves go; they sometimes feel that because their husband is a pastor, he is therefore trapped into fidelity, which gives them cause for laziness. A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband’s sin, but she may not be helping him either.

Scot McKnight at http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1697 blogged on the topic and pointed to a Seattle pastor’s open letter to Driscoll, calling on Driscoll to offer an apology. Several responders to McKnight’s blog then took Scot to task for being easy on Brian McLaren’s “provocateur” style of writing/talking but being hard on Driscoll’s offensive remarks to women, especially pastor’s wives. These issues have made me think about a deeper issue: What is the difference between someone willing to speak up about difficult issues with a prophetic and provocative voice and a person who uses reckless words to slander individuals he or she does not respect or value?

Does Driscoll speak provocatively about the lack of frank sexual discussions among pastors and spouses? Or does he link a pastor’s indiscretions to his wife’s behavior even though he states that is not his reason? (Is it possible that pastors’ wives “let themselves go” because they are neglected and at the bottom of their husband’s ministry lists?) I Realize that every prophet may give in to the temptation to slander and every slanderer may speak prophetically. So the distinctions I try to make between the two cannot be categorical.

1. A prophet names things and people (especially opponents) in a way that they would agree or approve. A slanderer uses names to disparage and to smear opponents, even those who might barely be related to the issues at hand. (Scot McKnight, in a recent presentation at Westminster Seminary, offers some good advice in this area when talking about emerging/missional church authors and their critics. When you describe your opponents, you ought to do so in a way that the opponents says, “that’s me.”).  A prophet does not stoop to build straw men.  
2. A prophet highlights viewpoints in order to point out their possible logical conclusions while a slanderer takes another’s position to an extreme and paints the person as intending the outcome or so foolish not to see the result.
3. While pointing out possible outcomes, a prophet is still able to describe these outcomes with complexity and shading while the slanderer merely paints everything in black and white.
4. A prophet points to a better way, creative solutions, risky but realistic options while a slanderer wastes no effort trying to provide solutions, but is satisfied with producing only criticisms and tired stereotypes.  

When I look at this list, I realize that I have slandered those less theologically astute, the biblically naive, and the psychologically narrow-minded. God has gifted me with some level of critical thinking. How will I use it to give Him the glory?

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Painful words in the church: What are we to do with our stories of pain and mistreatment by other Christians?


Its no revelation that Christians hurt each other in some very serious ways. While I believe that more people have been loved by Christians than hurt, the painful reality is that we can do so much damage. Hence we have books such as Dwight Carlson’s, Why do Christians shoot their wounded. Here’s what often happens. We tell the stories to others. There is something good and something bad about our telling of our stories. But before I discuss the good and the bad, let me tell two quick stories (which I will later critique). Continue reading

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You hurt me! How do you respond to hurtful words?


A couple of recent incidents have me thinking about how we handle our hurts, especially within the church. Yesterday, the news media carried the story of Michael Richard’s (Kramer from Seinfeld) racist verbal attack of two African American hecklers during his standup routine. Here’s the storyin case you missed it. After getting riled up by their comments, he used profane words and then delivered the N word as a final blow. He has since apologized and said he’s not a racist. Let’s assume he isn’t (and we probably shouldn’t since words come from the heart and not thin air). What would make him say these things? What makes us say the most hurtful words that we really don’t mean? The desire to hurt as much as we feel hurt. We go for the jugular. We go for the word that will do the most damage possible. In a fight have you said or had said to you, “I never loved you!” or “I hate you” or “I’m going to kill myself and then you’ll see how it is.” Well, maybe you’ve never said these things but you might have thought them.

It seems that when we are hurt we reserve the right to take the gloves off and wound in return. I’m going to write more tomorrow on when a christian leader makes offensive statements or when we talk about the various opinions of Christian leaders (that we disagree with). It seems in these cases we feel free to tell the stories of related hurts. I actually think this is a good thing. And yet we may use these stories to villify and slander in order to hurt back. In preparation for tomorrow’s post you might like to read these two posts and comments, (here) and (here), on Scot McKnight’s blog, www.jesuscreed.org. The first discusses some of the feelings about Brian McLaren, one of the public faces of the church emerging. The second is about some offensive comments made by Mark Driscoll. There is a third day where Driscoll’s explanation/apology is discussed as well. Read it here. Read the responses to the post and the dialogue among the responders. What themes do you see? What attitudes, what reactions?

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